Design Education talks-Episode 1: Phil Cleaver

Lefteris Heretakis
15 min readJan 30, 2020
Professor Phil Cleaver

I think that most designers who can get a Ph.D probably can’t design very well. The two things on the whole, don’t go together!

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- Lefteris Heretakis

Hello and welcome to the first episode of Design Education Talks, the collaboration between the team of the new art school and the designed podcast. Our guest today is Professor Cleaver. So welcome! Welcome to the first episode of this of this podcast.

- Phil Cleaver

Thank you.

- Lefteris Heretakis

So tell us a little bit about yourself.

- Phil Cleaver

I’ve been designing for 40 odd years. I was trained by some of the biggest designers going Alan Fletcher, Bob Gil. I was a protege of Anthony Froshaug and I worked with Michael Wolff in the 80s at Wolf Ollins, and then I was creative director of Allied International Designers during the…

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